Spine 4.2 imports PSDs directly, no Photoshop scripts needed

Davide

Thanks habahu for sending us the PSD.

Currently clipping masks are applied to the underlying layer only if the involved layers are contained into a [merge] group.

To obtain the desired result you have to do like in the image below:

habahu

Davide 我明白了，谢谢你的解答，能否改进一下psd导入功能，比如增加一个自动合并剪贴蒙版的选项。

Davide

habahu

Sure, we're trying to match the PSD script as much as possible.
Thanks again for reporting this 🙂

Davide

habahu 我明白了，谢谢你的解答，能否改进一下psd导入功能，比如增加一个自动合并剪贴蒙版的选项。

This has been implemented v4-2-38-beta.
Now clipping masks are merged with the layer or group below as if they were contained into a [merge] tag.

valahaha

Spine PSD importer problem:

When a layer doesn't have a name, the spine considers its name to be incorrect and takes the name of its hierarchy.
Basically in affinity designer every form and curve have by default no name.

If i do (layer representation)
-[merge]spine
--------<rectangle> (no name)
--------<curve>

Spine say the "layer name is not a valid attachment name"
Because it process the name despite the [merge] tag

the forum seem bugged cant upload anything so i give a link of screenshot
https://mega.nz/folder/p6I2GAhT#016n5YURkACPkKqfAz_bcA

Nate

valahaha Thanks, we'll improve that on Monday!

Davide

valahaha
The problem you reported has been fixed with the latest beta.
Thanks again for reporting this problem and let us know if there's some other malfunctions importing PSD generated by Affinity Designer 😃

valahaha

Davide

Nice it work well
Thanks for the amazing opportunities to use this my workflow at best💓

valahaha

Davide

Hey, have you re-modified the import script ?
From 4.2.26 to other the "/" in layer name doesnt work anymore for the skin folder.
[skin:chara/skin1]layer doesn't create sub-folder it only concatenate in spine a skin name

So [skin:chara/skin1] give charaskin1 for the skin name.

The [folder:x] tag doesn't seem to be working too.

Have a nice day

MindChamber

Awesome, straight from Clip studio will remove a whole step for me

Davide

valahaha

Hi valahaha,

Yes, we did some improvement to the PSD script and as you have noticed we worked on some name sanitization.

That is definitely the cause of the regression you reported about skins.
We enforced that skin names cannot contains "/", but in psd tags they actually can since the part before the "/" might represent the folders in which is contained.
We'll fix it in the next beta release.

Regarding the [folder:x] tag not working.
Can you provide an example of hierarchy in which the tag doesn't work. It seems to work on my side.

Thanks again for your collaboration 🙂

valahaha

Davide

Yes, that just im happy to report thing that doesnt work in my project.

Davide

valahaha

Ok, I see. It's folder in combinatino with skins.
Currently the skin tag is always prepended, then folder is applied, regardless order in the PSD.
While in the photoshop script this does respect the order.

Thanks again and we'll try to fix this too in the next release 👍️

eli_stergiouli

I have noticed when I export to psd using Krita the alpha inheritance (it acts like a mask) doesn't work. I tested it and this happens. Could this ever be fixed somehow without me needing to create a copy of the original file with all the layers merged? This isn't the best workflow because whenever I have to change something I need to create a new copy and re-merge everything. Or maybe is there a place in the roadmap to accept krita files as well?

test.zip

657kB

Davide

eli_stergiouli
Thanks for reporting this.

Unfortunately Krita doesn't seem to export into the psd file the information about alpha inheritance.
If you open the psd using Photoshop or Krita itself, you'll notice that the information about alpha inheritance is lost.

We'll try to open an issue about that on kryta github since currently it's a problem on their side.
Regarding supporting directly kryta files, that will be difficult, but we're thinking about other file formats like ora and tiff.
Exporting in ora using Krita seems to preserve alpha inheritance.

T.Fly()

Davide Having open standards available would be amazing. Really not a fan of import being based only on a proprietary standard, which FOSS software has to reverse engineer so there always will be issues around that.

eli_stergiouli

Davide a few days ago when I tried to export another project of mine to .ora and open it with gimp the alpha inheritance was lost. Maybe it was gimp's fault? Did you test it with another software? If Spine where to accept .ora files I would be very happy! Do you think this will be implemented in the future?

Fabiano

T.Fly()
Like importing TIFFs as well?
Are there any open formats that support the same features that PSD does?

Nate

There's not really such a thing as "features PSD supports". PSD supports ALL features of Photoshop. There are things Photoshop does that are unreasonable for other software reading a PSD to do, like linked PSDs, rasterizing vector, applying fancy filters, etc. Only a subset can reasonably be supported, and even then it's nasty because it's proprietary. Most apps just write pixel data to PSD and ignore everything else. PSD is popular, but it isn't good.

Yes, TIFF and/or ORA could be better interchange formats.

Davide

eli_stergiouli
Gimp seems to have limited support for .ora unfortunately.

We're focusing on stabilizing physics, skin folders and PSD processing, and currently we have no particular plan on supporting new file formats. We just had a thought about it.

Regarding alpha inheritance not exported in PSD as a clipping mask I saw on Krita issue tracker that there are issues opened since 2015/2016 and they are silent. That's not good news. Maybe you can try to give a +1 on those issues.

I can understand how frustrating it can be to copy and merge everything. Maybe we can add a [clip] tag to treat the layer as a clipping mask, but that would be very specific to Krita.

We'll think about it and see what we can do. If something reasonable can be done to support your use case, we'll let you know. 👍️

eli_stergiouli

Davide It would be amazing if you could include a [clip] tag in the future! I hope someday you have some time to do that. thanks for trying to help!